{"id":6898,"date":"2025-11-27T10:16:38","date_gmt":"2025-11-27T07:16:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/?p=6898"},"modified":"2025-11-27T10:16:38","modified_gmt":"2025-11-27T07:16:38","slug":"dialog-jekspertov-ili-vizit-predatelej-chto-delali-armjanskie-predstaviteli-v-baku","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/en\/2025\/11\/27\/dialog-jekspertov-ili-vizit-predatelej-chto-delali-armjanskie-predstaviteli-v-baku\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cExpert Dialogue\u201d or a Visit by Traitors? What Were the Armenian \u201cRepresentatives\u201d Doing in Baku?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style='padding-bottom:10px;font-size:30px;' class='av-special-heading av-special-heading-h3  blockquote modern-quote modern-centered  av-inherit-size'><h3 class='av-special-heading-tag'  itemprop=\"headline\"  >\u201cExpert Dialogue\u201d or a Visit by Traitors? What Were the Armenian \u201cRepresentatives\u201d Doing in Baku?<\/h3><div class='special-heading-border'><div class='special-heading-inner-border' ><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_one_full  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding first\" style='border-radius:0px; '><div class='avia-image-container  av-styling-    avia-align-center'  itemprop=\"ImageObject\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\"  ><div class='avia-image-container-inner'><img class='avia_image' src='https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/vstrecha-predstavitelej-grazhdanskogo-obshhestva-armenii-s-hikmetom-gadzhievym.webp' alt='\u0412\u0441\u0442\u0440\u0435\u0447\u0430 \u043f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u0438\u0442\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0439 \u0433\u0440\u0430\u0436\u0434\u0430\u043d\u0441\u043a\u043e\u0433\u043e \u043e\u0431\u0449\u0435\u0441\u0442\u0432\u0430 \u0410\u0440\u043c\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0438 \u0441 \u0425\u0438\u043a\u043c\u0435\u0442\u043e\u043c \u0413\u0430\u0434\u0436\u0438\u0435\u0432\u044b\u043c' title='\u0412\u0441\u0442\u0440\u0435\u0447\u0430 \u043f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u0438\u0442\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0439 \u0433\u0440\u0430\u0436\u0434\u0430\u043d\u0441\u043a\u043e\u0433\u043e \u043e\u0431\u0449\u0435\u0441\u0442\u0432\u0430 \u0410\u0440\u043c\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0438 \u0441 \u0425\u0438\u043a\u043c\u0435\u0442\u043e\u043c \u0413\u0430\u0434\u0436\u0438\u0435\u0432\u044b\u043c'   itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\"  \/><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_one_full  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding first\" style='border-radius:0px; '><section class=\"av_textblock_section\"  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'   itemprop=\"text\" ><p style=\"text-align: justify;\" class=\"translation-block\">On November 21, 2025, Baku staged yet another cynical \u201cperformance\u201d disguised as an \u201cexpert dialogue.\u201d This was no dialogue\u2014it was a display of humiliating humbleness. The trip was financed from Armenia\u2019s already strained state budget: 17 million 550 thousand drams were spent not on public needs, but on the travel expenses of supposedly \u201celected\u201d individuals who no longer hide whom they truly serve. Information about the visit of these Armenian \u201ccivil society representatives\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/am.sputniknews.ru\/20251121\/stali-izvestny-imena-amyan-pribyvshikh-v-baku-96090857.html\" target=\"_self\">was published by the Sputnik Armenia news agency<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Who exactly are these \u201crepresentatives of civil society\u201d? Boris Navasardyan, Areg Kochinyan, Narek Minasyan, Samvel Meliksetyan, Naira Sultanyan\u2026 Listing these names does not mean naming representatives of the people. They are puppets granting legitimacy to Azerbaijani propaganda.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_one_half  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding first\" style='border-radius:0px; '><section class=\"av_textblock_section\"  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'   itemprop=\"text\" ><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The behavior of Boris Navasardyan is especially outrageous. Instead of speaking out about Azerbaijan\u2019s genocidal policies, he chooses silence in the face of horrific realities. As Azerbaijani authorities stage a judicial farce targeting Armenian captives - demanding sentences of 16 to 20 years - Navasardyan remains quiet or, worse, lends justification to these actions.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The judicial proceedings against Armenian captives of war are not a routine legal process. They constitute a grave blow to the very existence of the Armenian state and its people. Yet for Navasardyan, this seems to amount merely to a \u201cpolite rejection.\u201d This is how he described the refusal to allow a meeting with Armenian captives held in Baku:<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_one_half  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding\" style='border-radius:0px; '><div class='avia-image-container  av-styling-    avia-align-center'  itemprop=\"ImageObject\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\"  ><div class='avia-image-container-inner'><img class='avia_image' src='https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/i.webp' alt='\u0411\u043e\u0440\u0438\u0441 \u041d\u0430\u0432\u0430\u0441\u0430\u0440\u0434\u044f\u043d' title='\u0411\u043e\u0440\u0438\u0441 \u041d\u0430\u0432\u0430\u0441\u0430\u0440\u0434\u044f\u043d'   itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\"  \/><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_one_full  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding first\" style='border-radius:0px; '><section class=\"av_textblock_section\"  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'   itemprop=\"text\" ><blockquote>\n<p>\u201cIf no such meeting was included in the visit program, it means such a proposal was rejected. We were provided with the visit agenda, we had some comments, and since there was no point concerning the meeting, though we expressed such desire, it means there was a polite rejection.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">A \u201cpolite rejection\u201d\u2026 These words are a slap in the face of every Armenian. Denying the right to meet compatriots suffering in captivity is not \u201cpolite.\u201d It is an inhumane act masked by diplomatic phrasing.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_one_third  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding first\" style='border-radius:0px; '><div class='avia-image-container  av-styling-    avia-align-center'  itemprop=\"ImageObject\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\"  ><div class='avia-image-container-inner'><img class='avia_image' src='https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/naira-sultanjan.jpg' alt='' title='\u041d\u0430\u0438\u0440\u0430 \u0421\u0443\u043b\u0442\u0430\u043d\u044f\u043d'   itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\"  \/><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_two_third  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding\" style='border-radius:0px; '><section class=\"av_textblock_section\"  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'   itemprop=\"text\" ><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Naira Sultanyan, a human rights defender, claims that the issue of the possible return of the captives was raised during the \u201cdiscussions.\u201d And then what? The Azerbaijani authorities provided no concrete answer - not even a list of the captives.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_one_full  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding first\" style='border-radius:0px; '><section class=\"av_textblock_section\"  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'   itemprop=\"text\" ><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It should be emphasized that both these so-called \u201ccivil society representatives\u201d and Hajiyev are ultimately serving Pashinyan\u2019s interests. Whenever questions arise about steps being taken to secure the release of the captives, government officials give the same stock responses: \u201cnegotiations are ongoing,\u201d \u201cdetails cannot be disclosed so as not to harm the process.\u201d The authorities keep \u201cassuring\u201d the public that they are making efforts. This has been happening for years.\nBut where are the results? Where are the freed captives? Where is there at least a sign of progress in the negotiations?<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_one_half  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding first\" style='border-radius:0px; '><section class=\"av_textblock_section\"  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'   itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Areg Kochinyan\u2019s remarks made the situation even more disgraceful. He went so far as to label compatriots who do not welcome such a \u201csettlement\u201d as \u201ceither foreign agents or rascals.\u201d This was not an analysis; it was a report wrapped in elegant wording. For the thousands of Armenians grieving the loss of Artsakh, such statements feel like an act of betrayal. They diminish their pain, their memories, and their remaining hope. Even worse, these words are spoken on taxpayers\u2019 money.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_one_half  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding\" style='border-radius:0px; '><div class='avia-image-container  av-styling-    avia-align-center'  itemprop=\"ImageObject\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\"  ><div class='avia-image-container-inner'><img class='avia_image' src='https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/areg-kochinjan.png' alt='' title='\u0410\u0440\u0435\u0433 \u041a\u043e\u0447\u0438\u043d\u044f\u043d'   itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\"  \/><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_one_full  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding first\" style='border-radius:0px; '><section class=\"av_textblock_section\"  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'   itemprop=\"text\" ><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">So who is the real \u201crascal\u201d here? Those who refuse to remain silent, or those who use public funds to insult their own compatriots? Who granted Kochinyan the authority to divide Armenians into those \u201cwho are right\u201d and those who are \u201crascals\u201d? On what basis does he brand people who still remember the lost Artsakh as traitors? Why is rhetoric that undermines national unity being financed from the state budget?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">His comments cannot be considered expert opinion - they amount to a blow in the back of thousands of families still living through this tragedy. It is an attempt to suppress memory under the guise of \u201cpragmatism.\u201d From the standpoint of national interests, that visit had no purpose. It was nothing but betrayal, cynicism, and hypocrisy.\nOne can easily discern Baku\u2019s political agenda behind it: to present Nikol Pashinyan as a \u201cguarantor of peace\u201d and to portray everyone who disagrees as \u201ctraitors\u201d supposedly capable of leading the country into another war.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_one_half  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding first\" style='border-radius:0px; '><div class='avia-image-container  av-styling-    avia-align-center'  itemprop=\"ImageObject\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\"  ><div class='avia-image-container-inner'><img class='avia_image' src='https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ishhan-sagateljan_001.jpg' alt='' title='\u0418\u0448\u0445\u0430\u043d \u0421\u0430\u0433\u0430\u0442\u0435\u043b\u044f\u043d'   itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\"  \/><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_one_half  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding\" style='border-radius:0px; '><section class=\"av_textblock_section\"  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'   itemprop=\"text\" ><p style=\"text-align: justify;\" class=\"translation-block\">Ishkhan Saghatelyan (ARF Dashnaktsutyun) <a href=\"https:\/\/www.golosarmenii.am\/\u0430\u0440\u043c\u0435\u043d\u0438\u044f-\u0430\u0437\u0435\u0440\u0431\u0430\u0439\u0434\u0436\u0430\u043d-\u0432\u0441\u0435\u0433\u043e-\u043b\u0438\u0448\u044c-\u043f\u0440\u043e\/\" target=\"_self\">delivered a very explicit <\/a>criticism:<\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li>While Azerbaijani prosecutors are demanding life sentences for the leaders of Artsakh (Arayik Harutyunyan, David Ishkhanyan, and others), these so-called \u201cexperts\u201d are ceremoniously conducting talks in Baku.<\/li>\n<li>The delegation did not even make an effort to visit the prisoners of war. This was not a dialogue; it was a farce.<\/li>\n<li>Their presence does not build trust - it legitimizes Azerbaijan\u2019s actions, including ethnic cleansing.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Saghatelyan is right: this was not a step toward peace, but a meeting with agents of influence. These \u201crepresentatives\u201d have no moral authority to speak on behalf of the Armenian people.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_one_full  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding first\" style='border-radius:0px; '><section class=\"av_textblock_section\"  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'   itemprop=\"text\" ><p>That \u201cdialogue\u201d was nothing more than a staged performance meant to create an illusion of progress in the peace process. In reality, it once again revealed the inability of these \u201crepresentatives\u201d to defend the rights of the people, the cynicism of Azerbaijani authorities pretending to engage in negotiations, and the indifference of Armenian officials willing to tolerate such humiliation.<\/p>\n<p>The visit in question was not an attempt to establish dialogue, but a display of submission to Baku, an example of public funds being spent on the government\u2019s image-making projects, an effort to discredit the opposition through the narrative that \u201cthose who disagree are traitors,\u201d and a step toward legitimizing the persecution of Artsakh\u2019s leaders. All of this indicates that Ilham Aliyev has effectively become involved in Nikol Pashinyan\u2019s election campaign. The plan is straightforward: peace with Pashinyan, and conflict with the opposition, whose representatives are portrayed as enemies of Armenia with supposed revanchist aims. In short, he who pays the piper calls the tune.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_one_fourth  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding first\" style='border-radius:0px; '><div class='avia-image-container  av-styling-    avia-align-center'  itemprop=\"ImageObject\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\"  ><div class='avia-image-container-inner'><img class='avia_image' src='https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/favicon.png' alt='' title=''   itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\"  \/><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex_column av_three_fourth  flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding\" style='border-radius:0px; '><section class=\"av_textblock_section\"  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'   itemprop=\"text\" ><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The Public Tribunal cannot remain silent. These so-called experts do not speak for Armenia; they serve as the voice of external actors and of Nikol Pashinyan. Their visit is a slap in the face to those who lost their homes in Artsakh, to those who lost family and friends, to those who cannot bear the ongoing desecration of Armenian monasteries and holy sites in Artsakh and Nakhijevan, to those still waiting for the return of the captives, and to all who still believe in justice. Yet individuals from this so-called \u201ccivil society\u201d brand such people as traitors. The names of those who traveled to Baku, labeled their own compatriots, and acted as instruments of propaganda for Ilham Aliyev and Nikol Pashinyan should remain in history as a symbol of profound betrayal.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The visit in question was not an attempt to establish dialogue, but a display of submission to Baku, an example of public funds being spent on the government\u2019s image-making projects, an effort to discredit the opposition through the narrative that \u201cthose who disagree are traitors,\u201d and a step toward legitimizing the persecution of Artsakh\u2019s leaders. All of this indicates that Ilham Aliyev has effectively become involved in Nikol Pashinyan\u2019s election campaign. The plan is straightforward: peace with Pashinyan, and conflict with the opposition, whose representatives are portrayed as enemies of Armenia with supposed revanchist aims. In short, he who pays the piper calls the tune.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":6899,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[163,157],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6898","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-materialy-tribunala","category-news"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6898","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6898"}],"version-history":[{"count":14,"href":"https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6898\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6936,"href":"https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6898\/revisions\/6936"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/6899"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6898"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6898"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/armtribunal.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6898"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}